Thursday, August 19, 2010

Pop art confusion!!!!!!!?

if a art teacher could answar this q i would be wery greatful, why do we have to do pop art as a project when we could be doing things we love to draw like for me it would be dragons (fantasy art) im just so confused!!!!!!

Pop art confusion!!!!!!!?
they're basically giving you the experience to broaden your own style, you could still do dragons and fantasy stuff, but if you know more about other styles, then yours can become even more unique!!


so, listen to what they're saying, but dont listen so hard that it blocks all other styles out.
Reply:I am a designer..but close enough....by experiencing and understadning all the schools of thought around creating images, art installations etc....we better understand all the techniques of creating art and communicating that with the people who are going to look at our art.....you can still draw fantasy...but how you execute it can change.....you may learn how fantasy and Pop art are not that far off each other....many people can argue fatasy is kitsch...kitsh can lead to pop.....learn all you can about everything then you are in a better position to make your mind up about what you value........fantasy art is a subject that is drawn....Pop art is a style...do fantasy in a pop art style?!!?!?!
Reply:It sounds to this former art major as if your teacher is trying to do what teachers in school are supposed to do: broaden your experience and practice through exercises.





Look at it their way. You would never, on your own, try to do a pop art project-- or probably, a Renaissance art project, or an Impressionist art project or an Expressionist art project. That's reason enough to assign one. It's a way to teach art history, through practice.





I can't tell you how many students, trapped in "dull" art history class reading assignments, would love to trade you places, and be asked to pretend they are artists from another time period. That could be such fun.





It's a great opportunity you have there. At home, and later, you can draw your dragons. (I used to like to draw monsters all the time, the most horrible I could think up.) But play along with the teacher now, and you may learn something that surprises you, about art, and about yourself.





Best of luck.
Reply:Think of it this way. For every person thinking what you're thinking, there's someone else thinking, "I'm so glad we're doing pop art! I'd hate to do fantasy art." It's important to get exposure to different methods and concepts in art, even if you completely hate them, so at least you understand them better and don't just hate from ignorance (the bane of any good artist).
Reply:Pop art is one of the major art movements of the Twentieth Century. Characterized by themes and techniques drawn from mass culture, such as advertising and comic books. Now do you understand why dragons in not invoive with Pop art.?
Reply:Each teacher will do their own thing.





I had an art teacher that would never let us go near pop art.


For him there was only on kind of 'true art' - fine art.


Everything else was a no go area for us.





But still, count yourself lucky, i spend two years drawing fruit, regardless of any ones artistic opinion.
Reply:As many people have already stated, teachers need to be seen to enrich your creative understanding by broadening your artistic horizons (it is part of the marking criteria). 'pop' art is like many other artistic movements, politically and socially relevant, encompassing much thought and subversion. Thus it's influence has been felt in many creative mediums since. Perhaps you could re-interpret fantasy art. Dragons etc have been potent symbols in art for centuries, visually representing many of the ills of society. Look at Godzilla.........


If this is an AS or A2 project I'd suggest using dragons as an analogy and re representing them in your work in a pop-art style, Peter Blake painted many wrestlers covered in dragon tattoos and many members of the 'sensationalist' movement used dragons to portray aggressive consumerism. Maybe try and find a picture of a dragon that you like in an oriental art book and use pop art techniques to recreate it.


Hope this has been of some help.
Reply:Great question, my good friend. However, the answer is simple and shameful. Most people in the world only what the world has to offer. However, you, my dear will one day be a hero,saint and grand savior.
Reply:If you want to do art then any teacher worth their degree will give assignments in various forms of art. There are a few reasons for this.





For one thing it exposes you to new technics that may only be used in one form of art or another. In learning these technics you learn how not only to do that genre but also a bit of appreciation for it as well. In other words it will make you a well rounded "artist".





It will open your mind to new ideas. You may learn something that you dig and be able to incorporate it into some of your work later.





It can also expose you to different media that you may not normally use.





Sure it's not the stuff you want to do now. But afterward you may see things differently and your stuff will improve. It's all about knowledge. The more you know the more you can do.





I'm not a teacher but I had the best. Ken Cutway from Hempfield. Sure we had to do assignments we didn't like but there was always a reason behind it and when you were done you knew why we did it. He taught on a college level in highschool and the students ate it up.





There was never a you have to do this perfect to get good grades but you really had to show that you tried. I didn't like all the assignments and there were times that I thought as you do now. But I still did my best and I'm thankful to this day that I did. Do I do a ton of different kinds of stuff now? No, I don't like pop art and I never have. But there have been times I've been able to use things from learning how to that made my life easier with a couple gigs because of what I was taught.





Down the road you may forget what technics are actually called, or who did what painting, stuff like that but if you really put forth an effort in learning you will never forget how to do it.
Reply:I'm head of art in a secondary school. The QCA (government )guidelines cover every project in every year of your school life. We have to teach you about still life, objects %26amp; viewpoints. One of the best ways of doing this is through pop art or cubism as they focused on everyday familiar objects, therefore hopefully making it more interesting. we get our pupils to look at drinks and sweet packaging as an update of warhols everyday object pictures, like the campbells soup can, we also look at famous modern icons as an update on the Marilyn Monroe painting. It teaches you to look at studying everyday objects and familiar items, the basics which are essential. I would suggest doing some life drawing to start before doing fantasy, otherwise you will end up just copying others peoples work which doesnt get you high marks when doing GCSE Art. You could look into manga art which is a good start. You'll find that every artist started with still life or life drawing before they went into fantasy work to get their basic skills(look at the early work of some of your favourite artists). hope this answers your question. I also hope your talking about key stage 3 art because at GCSE you should be able to choose your own artists with some guidance.
Reply:it appears that they think we need to learn how to be abstract, like as if copying another style is gonna teach that.
Reply:Because of its link with popular mass culture. Teachers think it's relevant because you can look at culture now, advertising, film, computer generated art etc. It was the first time that throwaway 'non art' was used and so it questions and comments upon the things that influence us and make us what we are. Hope you're not doing Warhol and Lichenstein, look further. Turn your fantasy art into pop.
Reply:It's important to learn the basics for all styles. It developes a greater understanding and appreciation of what's needed to create all kinds of art. I used to think that any 3 year old could create abstract art until I had to do it and realized how hard it is to do a good piece.


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