Why don't we spend more on art ?

The portion of disposable income spent on art was decreasing steadily until it is almost negligible. Art is something which enriches us and makes us better and wiser. My parents, while not at all rich made point of collecting art which I now inherited, I can't tell you what difference that made in my life.


1.Is art too expensive (I do not think so, a piece of real art can be had for the price of a couple of nights out on town)?


2. Is it so bad it no longer talks to us ? (perhaps some, but certainly not all)


3. We decided art is unimportant in our life, and thus refuse to spend money on it.


4. We no longer consider art relevant in any sense.


5. We no longer see true art when we see it.





If any or most of the above is true, then we have given up a part of our humanity without a fight. Our apathy has also condemned a lot of young, good artists to a slow death and artistic irrevelance.





TYLER, if you make fun of this, I will fly to Berlin and have Penfold teach your cat goosestep.

Why don't we spend more on art ?
We do spend a great deal on art -- we just spend it on new forms of art and not so much on the old forms.





One of my next door neighbors is a movie artist. I'm a writer (not screen). We both make good livings, but we don't make the millions per film our top artists make.





Ever bought a modern video game? Lots of art there.





Ever bought anything advertised? Lots of art there.





Ever bought a car because you liked the way it looked?





You must spend a lot for your nights on the town. The stuff I have seen that warrants the designation of "real art" costs enough to allow a real artist to maintain a family AND a studio.





I am not sure what you mean by your question, and I mean that seriously. Many artists are among the highest paid people in the world, ask Spielberg. Canvas artists only break the bank if they were good enough to earn any kind of living while they waited to be popular enough or prestigous enough to make real money.





Other "artists" far outnumber the kind that make a good living simply because they are not any good. Would you rather have a Picasso print or an original John Doe? Just about everyone has some type of art in their home, but most of it is copies because the originals are so expensive few can afford them. We go with the copies instead of originals of bad art because we can usually see (know) true art when we see it.





Go to an arts festival. Even some things like wood work is elevated to art. The price tags the artist can get for his originals can be very informative. The higher the price he can bring, the more likely imitations will soon be imported.





Tell me, the last time you bought a book, did you buy a manuscript or a mass-produced copy? I really do not understand your question.





I do believe we should spend more on art education -- not to produce more artists because I have seen to many examples stating that talent will not be denied while mediocrity will seldom be rewarded to believe that increased education will result in more quality works of art. I think we should spend more on arts education simply to increase our own appreciation of it. If we do, even less mediocrity might be rewarded.
Reply:the thing I think about art and music, is that it doesn't actually do anything logically useful, untill you look at those who are buying and enjoying it...


doctors and police and everyone who does actually do stuff to keep our society running, keep people safe and fed and housed all of those people get a lot of stress thrown on them and they all have feelings.


and I think all arts are about reducing that stress in those people and letting them know their feelings aren't so disconnected to the rest of humanity.


where in the value of art really lies, I think different art speaks to different people in different ways, and sometimes not at all.


some purely religous art might only speak to those who know that religeon's stories or understand faith, and might not speak to an antheist at all.


some art is unbelieveably expencive but as the old saying goes "everything is worth exactly what the purchaser will pay for it"...


look at all the people who go to concerts, look at everyone who goes to a cinema, arts are not so restrictive, it's not unimportant it's just acessable in other ways, you don't need space to own a song, or a movie, like you do for a scuplture or a painting, but you still need the feelings and inspirations you get from it.


art will never be irrelevant but it will change as it has, and we'll still want a painting or a sculpture, as a movie as a song.


and what is true art? art is what inspires something in us is it not? sometimes we get to caught up that we need to stop and see the natural and created art around us, but we still see it if we look.


define true art and you're either locking out amazing works, or leaving it illdefined and flexable.


I think none of the 5 points are true, I think 4 are some people's view and 5 becomes true without patience or too ridgid a definition of "art".
Reply:HA-HA!... You spelled "I am an overeducated bastard" wrong.
Reply:art is supposed to be the beginning of writing and it is so important. the reason i believe that,


1. people want everything way to fast and art takes time it is not like MC. Donald's where you pull up and get a "full filling" art experience.


2. you have to take time to enjoy anything art takes so much time to create that it would take a long time to understand and get any thing from it.
Reply:Under the given circumstances for gagging me with a spoon, I have and will not contribute anything to your question, as I only know diddle about the subject.


And I want to thank you for all the enjoyment you've taken out of it.
Reply:Art is important it gives people a voice. Rightfully, however, there are many more things which are more important, like the basic necessities of life and things that keep the world safe. People who have little don't appreciate art, they are too wrapped up in keeping their own lives in order, or keeping their own life- period. Though, art is a good release from life, people don't always see the rehabilitating nature. Art is doing what you love, which cannot be forced on people but everyone should have the opportunity to express themselves through art. I also do not believe there is true art and untrue art, "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder." Keep in mind, just because someone my not sell their art does not mean they are not artistic, do not be so quick to judge.
Reply:Bobbob (senor palindrome):





It's probably a combination of 3, 4, and 5. It's discouraging, I think people are so desensitized these days that art doesn't move them. They hear a poem, look at a great piece of art, and are left cold. I know that isn't everyone, but it cetainly seems pervasive. The number of people I know that haven't read a book since highschool is growing (outside of work related tech manuals). We are surrendering our soul for other dreams--more mundane ones. It's really sad.





Todd
Reply:salesmen! We need salesmen! OK ,or sales women!





or perhaps a Live Art concert or an Art Day benifit





We too are dying! or at the very least we are sick.
Reply:Art has been cheapened by modern society. An individual reads a poem, gazes at a picture, hears a song and thinks "I can do that" I've been told my entire life in a society free from want, that my skills, my opinions on any one of a variety of topics are as valid as anyones. Maybe more-so because I've been raised to exalt my own self above all other achievement. How else to explain critics who seek to impart the mantel of "genius" on say... the comedy of Jim Carrey, the creations of Chris Ofili, the music of any one of a number of pop groups. The dedicated determination and vision of the true artist are widely and unjustly believed to be within the capability of anyone. "Just give me a chance, you'll see" becomes the rallying cry of the American idol generation.
Reply:Bobbobbob, the beans are salted already.





I happen to agree with you, 100%. I also agree with the rest of the wallpaper cartell.





Rhetoric of this nature has no shock value. Where's the fun in that...





Someday we'll discuss the lost treasure of masterful articulation, just not on Monday. I've got billing to do and another Tuesday to plan...